Facing Racism Together: How Real Change Begins in Community Not Just Conversation

Show Notes: To Be and Do — Facing Racism Together

In this powerful and timely episode of To Be and Do, host Phil Amerson delves into the deeply rooted challenges of racism in America, particularly in light of recent events and ongoing debates around DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion). Drawing from his personal journey, decades of academic research, and lived experience, Phil unpacks what it will take for both faith communities and the wider society to confront and interrupt the cycles of bigotry and exclusion that persist today.

Phil begins by reflecting on recent public statements that scapegoat diversity initiatives and perpetuate harmful stereotypes. He reminds listeners that the U.S. is inherently a multicultural nation, and that living into this reality is not just a societal challenge but also a profound opportunity—one that resounds deeply with both constitutional and Christian principles of equality.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. Racism is More than an Attitude—it’s Institutional and Cultural Phil moves beyond the common notion that racism is simply a matter of personal prejudice. Instead, he outlines four dimensions: attitudinal, behavioral, institutional, and cultural. Attitudes and behaviors are only part of the problem; structural and cultural systems often perpetuate discrimination regardless of individuals' intentions. Historical examples, such as resistance to school integration, demonstrate how deeply racism can be embedded in organizational practices and community norms.

2. Real Change Requires Action and Relationship, Not Just Talk Phil’s research, funded by the Project Understanding initiative, revealed that sermons and classroom learning about racism, while important, are not sufficient to change attitudes or dismantle prejudices. The most meaningful transformation happened when people from different racial backgrounds engaged in shared tasks—like apartment-hunting together or volunteering side-by-side—allowing them to witness discrimination firsthand and develop real relationships. Experiencing and discussing these realities together fosters empathy and sparks genuine change.

3. The Church Must Move Beyond Words to Meaningful Inclusion Despite lofty rhetoric about love and inclusivity, Phil acknowledges that many faith communities have fallen short, sometimes harboring fewer racial minorities today than decades ago. He calls for congregations to step into deeper engagement with people unlike themselves—not to merely “preach another sermon” or host a webinar, but to walk alongside neighbors and listen to stories that challenge their perspectives. Only through honest encounters and sustained commitment can institutions model the harmony and justice that both society and scripture demand.

Resources & Further Listening:

• Learn more about the Belonging Exchange at belongingexchange.org
• Related episode: “Walking in Each Other’s Shoes: Stories of Real Connection”

Petition Opposing Racist Policies at Indiana University

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